1 00:00:05,269 --> 00:00:02,389 one of the stories that's touched on in 2 00:00:06,889 --> 00:00:05,279 the book I spoke to chase klitsky 3 00:00:10,310 --> 00:00:06,899 um back in the early days of the podcast 4 00:00:11,870 --> 00:00:10,320 in 2020 and at the time a listener had 5 00:00:14,089 --> 00:00:11,880 uh shared a story with me which you 6 00:00:17,689 --> 00:00:14,099 included within the book and essentially 7 00:00:20,210 --> 00:00:17,699 Chase and her husband was with her and a 8 00:00:22,429 --> 00:00:20,220 few other folks and you experience 9 00:00:24,650 --> 00:00:22,439 missing Time Crossing a section of a 10 00:00:26,269 --> 00:00:24,660 field that you're you're all well aware 11 00:00:28,910 --> 00:00:26,279 should only take a few minutes and it 12 00:00:30,830 --> 00:00:28,920 takes much longer during that encounter 13 00:00:34,069 --> 00:00:30,840 The Listener asked me given something 14 00:00:36,889 --> 00:00:34,079 they had heard that you had been taken 15 00:00:38,389 --> 00:00:36,899 off Planet during that experience and I 16 00:00:41,090 --> 00:00:38,399 wonder if that's something you would 17 00:00:43,790 --> 00:00:41,100 confirm if that has ever happened to you 18 00:00:45,950 --> 00:00:43,800 or anyone with you I asked Chase and at 19 00:00:49,369 --> 00:00:45,960 the time she didn't want to comment 20 00:00:49,970 --> 00:00:49,379 well I write about chasing the book and 21 00:00:53,869 --> 00:00:49,980 um 22 00:00:56,810 --> 00:00:53,879 a little short her husband is a U.S 23 00:00:59,569 --> 00:00:56,820 naval sub Commander right Carrie secret 24 00:01:01,970 --> 00:00:59,579 Clarence says he's a big guy he 25 00:01:05,810 --> 00:01:01,980 navigates the world underneath the water 26 00:01:07,670 --> 00:01:05,820 and has a watched navigation watched I 27 00:01:11,390 --> 00:01:07,680 mean a high-text thing 28 00:01:14,990 --> 00:01:11,400 and what it was was a 29 00:01:18,469 --> 00:01:15,000 um a group of people from a ghost 30 00:01:22,249 --> 00:01:18,479 hunting outfit in Wilmington North 31 00:01:24,230 --> 00:01:22,259 Carolina was in my little Hometown where 32 00:01:26,030 --> 00:01:24,240 my mother was born and I was kind of 33 00:01:27,770 --> 00:01:26,040 reared up little town called Saint 34 00:01:30,289 --> 00:01:27,780 Paul's 35 00:01:32,149 --> 00:01:30,299 my grandfather's buried there my 36 00:01:34,130 --> 00:01:32,159 family's bare and it's only 20 minutes 37 00:01:37,190 --> 00:01:34,140 from where I live now 38 00:01:40,609 --> 00:01:37,200 but Chase calls me on a Sunday night and 39 00:01:42,890 --> 00:01:40,619 says uh Monday night and says Chris have 40 00:01:45,710 --> 00:01:42,900 you ever heard of Saint Paul's 41 00:01:47,390 --> 00:01:45,720 I said hold on don't tell me yes I've 42 00:01:49,249 --> 00:01:47,400 heard of Saint Paul's I was raised there 43 00:01:50,450 --> 00:01:49,259 I said but don't tell me I want to tell 44 00:01:52,249 --> 00:01:50,460 you first 45 00:01:54,889 --> 00:01:52,259 so I began to tell her about Saturday 46 00:01:57,050 --> 00:01:54,899 night I walk outside I sit down on the 47 00:02:00,530 --> 00:01:57,060 patio got a fire going 48 00:02:02,510 --> 00:02:00,540 and um I'm laid back looking straight up 49 00:02:04,789 --> 00:02:02,520 at the sky just meditating and suddenly 50 00:02:07,910 --> 00:02:04,799 two orange organs appear 51 00:02:10,010 --> 00:02:07,920 way up and they came all the way down to 52 00:02:11,869 --> 00:02:10,020 the top of the trees and sat there in 53 00:02:14,630 --> 00:02:11,879 the back of my property hovering over 54 00:02:17,210 --> 00:02:14,640 the trees two great big orange doors 55 00:02:20,150 --> 00:02:17,220 when they left they shot off towards 56 00:02:22,190 --> 00:02:20,160 Saint Paul's so I told her this story 57 00:02:24,410 --> 00:02:22,200 and then she tells me about these Ghost 58 00:02:26,330 --> 00:02:24,420 Hunters 59 00:02:28,850 --> 00:02:26,340 um that they had walked out of the house 60 00:02:31,309 --> 00:02:28,860 and into the forest and 61 00:02:33,770 --> 00:02:31,319 these orange streaks went right over 62 00:02:36,470 --> 00:02:33,780 their head and two hours later 63 00:02:39,589 --> 00:02:36,480 uh they lost two hours of time so she 64 00:02:41,809 --> 00:02:39,599 asked if I would be in interested in 65 00:02:44,630 --> 00:02:41,819 investigating it with her because she 66 00:02:45,650 --> 00:02:44,640 was coming to our area and so a week 67 00:02:49,910 --> 00:02:45,660 later 68 00:02:53,330 --> 00:02:49,920 I call a friend from NASA he flies in 69 00:02:55,610 --> 00:02:53,340 um for the day I pick him up and that's 70 00:02:58,790 --> 00:02:55,620 the famous Timothy Taylor you hear Diana 71 00:03:01,610 --> 00:02:58,800 silk talk about I introduced him to 72 00:03:03,949 --> 00:03:01,620 Diana by the way she uh 73 00:03:06,770 --> 00:03:03,959 she met him a couple years three years 74 00:03:07,970 --> 00:03:06,780 after I did or so 75 00:03:11,089 --> 00:03:07,980 um but 76 00:03:13,009 --> 00:03:11,099 we were all there and and that night 77 00:03:15,589 --> 00:03:13,019 they invited me back for a ghost hunt 78 00:03:17,750 --> 00:03:15,599 they wanted to recreate the thing 79 00:03:19,910 --> 00:03:17,760 so I dropped Tim back off at the airport 80 00:03:22,309 --> 00:03:19,920 and he goes home to Huntsville 81 00:03:24,530 --> 00:03:22,319 I went back over there and met with them 82 00:03:27,229 --> 00:03:24,540 and they did their thing in the house 83 00:03:29,270 --> 00:03:27,239 with their EVPs and I sat outside I 84 00:03:31,369 --> 00:03:29,280 wasn't interested in that 85 00:03:33,110 --> 00:03:31,379 but the where they missed time was 86 00:03:34,790 --> 00:03:33,120 behind the house 87 00:03:37,610 --> 00:03:34,800 there's a cabin in the edge of the 88 00:03:39,770 --> 00:03:37,620 forest behind a kind of across the field 89 00:03:42,410 --> 00:03:39,780 so you walk out the back door of this 90 00:03:43,910 --> 00:03:42,420 plantation house was a big field go to 91 00:03:46,309 --> 00:03:43,920 the other side of the field and inside 92 00:03:47,690 --> 00:03:46,319 the trees just in the woods is this 93 00:03:49,670 --> 00:03:47,700 cabin 94 00:03:52,670 --> 00:03:49,680 so we go over there 95 00:03:57,289 --> 00:03:52,680 and we take off through the forest 96 00:03:59,509 --> 00:03:57,299 behind the cabin and 15 minutes walk we 97 00:04:02,030 --> 00:03:59,519 come out on a power line a big high 98 00:04:03,949 --> 00:04:02,040 tension power line just just a clear 99 00:04:05,210 --> 00:04:03,959 Lane you know you can see their way of 100 00:04:07,490 --> 00:04:05,220 mine 101 00:04:10,610 --> 00:04:07,500 but it's 15 minutes across these heads 102 00:04:13,009 --> 00:04:10,620 of woods but here's the key behind that 103 00:04:15,890 --> 00:04:13,019 cabin is a dish 10 feet from the back 104 00:04:18,289 --> 00:04:15,900 steps is a big ditch so we all had to go 105 00:04:19,789 --> 00:04:18,299 in the ditch it's dry trees growing up 106 00:04:23,330 --> 00:04:19,799 in a thick forest 107 00:04:25,670 --> 00:04:23,340 and then 15 minutes to the power line 108 00:04:27,710 --> 00:04:25,680 so when it was time to go back to the 109 00:04:29,990 --> 00:04:27,720 cabin we made it through the woods got 110 00:04:31,810 --> 00:04:30,000 over there looked around and on our way 111 00:04:34,670 --> 00:04:31,820 back 112 00:04:37,310 --> 00:04:34,680 when we started Peach like I'll do the 113 00:04:39,170 --> 00:04:37,320 navigation we need to take this heading 114 00:04:41,629 --> 00:04:39,180 we're going to come right out at the car 115 00:04:44,689 --> 00:04:41,639 where the cabin is 116 00:04:46,490 --> 00:04:44,699 so eight of us in that group I was the 117 00:04:48,890 --> 00:04:46,500 number eight in line I was in the back 118 00:04:51,590 --> 00:04:48,900 Chase was in front of me so we were 119 00:04:53,810 --> 00:04:51,600 bringing up the tail end peace in the 120 00:04:57,469 --> 00:04:53,820 front got it 121 00:05:00,350 --> 00:04:57,479 when we get to the ditch handy 122 00:05:03,890 --> 00:05:00,360 I'd never seen anything like this 123 00:05:08,030 --> 00:05:03,900 especially when I saw Pete and what it 124 00:05:11,469 --> 00:05:08,040 did to him this guy's six foot five or 125 00:05:15,950 --> 00:05:11,479 six and he's you know he's a he's a 126 00:05:18,650 --> 00:05:15,960 model maybe sealed just a big honking 127 00:05:22,610 --> 00:05:18,660 he's a teddy bear right but he's still 128 00:05:24,950 --> 00:05:22,620 uh very smart guy so when we got to the 129 00:05:27,590 --> 00:05:24,960 dish and we walked down in the ditch and 130 00:05:29,810 --> 00:05:27,600 out on the other side we walked back out 131 00:05:31,610 --> 00:05:29,820 on the power line 132 00:05:33,409 --> 00:05:31,620 there is no dictionary the power line 133 00:05:36,110 --> 00:05:33,419 it's behind that cabin 134 00:05:38,930 --> 00:05:36,120 and when we did that everybody said oh 135 00:05:41,689 --> 00:05:38,940 my God and I didn't I knew what happened 136 00:05:44,629 --> 00:05:41,699 because I was meditating I was singing a 137 00:05:47,270 --> 00:05:44,639 song the whole way across there 138 00:05:50,270 --> 00:05:47,280 and it messed everybody up really bad 139 00:05:52,790 --> 00:05:50,280 and we went turned around and walked 140 00:05:55,310 --> 00:05:52,800 back the other way towards the power 141 00:05:57,890 --> 00:05:55,320 line we thought and we came to the ditch 142 00:05:59,390 --> 00:05:57,900 again and walked through the ditch up to 143 00:06:02,029 --> 00:05:59,400 the cabin 144 00:06:04,310 --> 00:06:02,039 and it just blew the whole group's mind 145 00:06:05,570 --> 00:06:04,320 and I told him I said we lost 15 minutes 146 00:06:07,850 --> 00:06:05,580 of time 147 00:06:09,950 --> 00:06:07,860 well and so they went home and they were 148 00:06:12,230 --> 00:06:09,960 they had helmet cams and recording 149 00:06:14,749 --> 00:06:12,240 devices and you know 150 00:06:17,570 --> 00:06:14,759 they had all kinds of equipment they'd 151 00:06:20,870 --> 00:06:17,580 started a timer in the car 152 00:06:23,570 --> 00:06:20,880 and she calls me on 153 00:06:25,430 --> 00:06:23,580 the following Monday or Tuesday after 154 00:06:26,749 --> 00:06:25,440 they reviewed the evidence and she said 155 00:06:29,450 --> 00:06:26,759 you're never going to believe what 156 00:06:30,590 --> 00:06:29,460 happened I said yeah we lost 15 minutes 157 00:06:32,629 --> 00:06:30,600 of time 158 00:06:35,510 --> 00:06:32,639 she said how did you know 159 00:06:37,670 --> 00:06:35,520 I said because I witnessed it it takes 160 00:06:38,570 --> 00:06:37,680 15 minutes to go across that head of 161 00:06:41,870 --> 00:06:38,580 woods 162 00:06:42,710 --> 00:06:41,880 and one trip across it is when they took 163 00:06:45,290 --> 00:06:42,720 us 164 00:06:47,629 --> 00:06:45,300 and um 165 00:06:50,570 --> 00:06:47,639 so anyhow yeah I write about this story 166 00:06:52,909 --> 00:06:50,580 and it is a lot more to it 167 00:06:54,230 --> 00:06:52,919 and um 168 00:06:56,150 --> 00:06:54,240 yeah 169 00:06:58,189 --> 00:06:56,160 so that's not the only person I've had 170 00:07:00,830 --> 00:06:58,199 scientists from the government to lose 171 00:07:04,730 --> 00:07:00,840 as much as two hours of time on my 172 00:07:10,909 --> 00:07:07,550 and I wonder how many times do you 173 00:07:12,290 --> 00:07:10,919 remember potentially being taken off 174 00:07:15,490 --> 00:07:12,300 planet 175 00:07:19,909 --> 00:07:18,409 any of the others such as and I know 176 00:07:20,870 --> 00:07:19,919 Chase didn't want to talk about it at 177 00:07:22,550 --> 00:07:20,880 the time 178 00:07:24,710 --> 00:07:22,560 um but any of those scientists or 179 00:07:27,409 --> 00:07:24,720 officials if they have that messing time 180 00:07:29,330 --> 00:07:27,419 experience do any of them recall what 181 00:07:31,909 --> 00:07:29,340 happened to them or does it tend to be 182 00:07:34,909 --> 00:07:31,919 just missing for them it it tends to 183 00:07:38,089 --> 00:07:34,919 mess with her memories I can't remember 184 00:07:41,510 --> 00:07:38,099 what happened during that time and I 185 00:07:44,990 --> 00:07:41,520 don't think we ever will no because they 186 00:07:47,870 --> 00:07:45,000 have a good way of erasing your memory 187 00:07:50,830 --> 00:07:47,880 we tend to get regressions and all that 188 00:07:55,189 --> 00:07:50,840 hoping you find Clues but 189 00:07:57,409 --> 00:07:55,199 you can remember bits and pieces of it 190 00:08:00,350 --> 00:07:57,419 it's almost impossible like the four 191 00:08:02,990 --> 00:08:00,360 hours on the river I have plain memories 192 00:08:07,029 --> 00:08:03,000 about being over Egypt 193 00:08:11,210 --> 00:08:07,039 of all that night of the grueling 194 00:08:13,850 --> 00:08:11,220 uh it was just it was a a big thing 195 00:08:17,510 --> 00:08:13,860 scared us all to death and four hours 196 00:08:20,629 --> 00:08:17,520 seemed like four years in that world 197 00:08:22,129 --> 00:08:20,639 and I have lots of memories but the 198 00:08:24,830 --> 00:08:22,139 Egypt 199 00:08:28,730 --> 00:08:24,840 the temple of hathor 200 00:08:31,129 --> 00:08:28,740 the pyramids and the Spanx it's just 201 00:08:32,750 --> 00:08:31,139 reverberates through my brain and it did